prunesquallor wrote:


I really like this idea. It could be done tastefully and it would help draw more people to the game. Does buying Google "add words" cost much money? Have you noticed it increasing traffic at your business?

To the best of my knowledge, White Wolf, WotC, and WW/CCP did not have a problem with people reselling their VTES card as long as they were legit products. Why should they have a problem with that continuing to happen? Being that the VEKN has some relationship with at least WW/CCP we could ask them first, just to be sure.

I'm picturing links to search results for cards that could be run through this site (i.e. Secret Library box to search for crypt cards like Arika). Once you've searched for her there is what you would get now, plus a link saying "buy copies of Arika" that goes to an Ebay search result for VTES Arika. That may not be direct enough, so you could have "buy from X,Y, or Z" where those are sponsors that have that card.

Does something along those lines sound feasible?

brandonsantacruz wrote:
We have paid no monies to WotC -- nor to CCP, for that matter -- for any royalty and/or patent charges. Hence, the product that the VEKN is producing is NOT legit.

brandonsantacruz wrote:
Now that there is no more VTES product owned by CCP, there is no more relationship between the VEKN and CCP.

In fact, everyone formerly associated with the "legacy" products of WW was fired from CCP in December.

yea, think keeping/sparking interest is all on us as a group.....

Kevin, do you mean ALL the ww/ non-videogame project people were fired? if thats true, i really can't stand ccp. (before i was just angry for correctable reasons, like them dropping vtes and being idiots... but wow....)

ReverendRevolver wrote:
A few weeks ago, I spoke with the former employee in charge of all legacy (i.e. non-online, White Wolf) product, and he told me that most everyone was let go.

Also, if you grabbed CCP's 2010 financial statement when it was leaked, you'd see that the Atlanta office's finances wasn't very large in comparison to the other offices, and I'd guess that most (all?) of the legacy employees worked there, and not overseas.

I wouldn't care if they had done any of this and they had a working online MMORPG out, but they don't even have one in beta. I mean, if you compare, WoW was in its last beta test around this time.

eek.
i assumed they'd keep the people who knew WW stuff around until the game was making or losing money at least. thats disappointing.

as for the comparison to wow, the long winded introduction they gave the game in new orleans in 2010 made it wound like they were fleshing out every facet before even beta testing was available. thats why there was no true completion date.

beyond that, Rodd and I had talked to the wife/girlfriend of one of the ccp employees at the succubus club open bar that weekend, and she'd mentioned more than what their power-point showed everyone. namely that they were hiring actual clothing designers from all over to flesh out the wardrobe part of the game.

so, it upsets me when they have money for that but not the people involved in the bones of the oWoD that they are using.

until i see the game i can't say if its a wasted effort or a cool idea, but our game was the last survivor of the oWoD anyway, so i'm sure we'll be fine even if their game bombs. and if it doesn't, still probably good for us.