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Re: Order of ending effects?

#25795 14 Mar 2012 07:20
KevinM wrote:
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So what gives you the right to determine what is and is not polite?
Because it's their forum. They made it, they own it. Do you disagree with this?


Given the purpose of the forum and its history on usenet, yes.


If it were MY forum, I'd allow every word and statement to be made and not censor any of it until a personal attack was made, and then I'd delete the entire post, not revise it, and I'd explain to the person why their post was deleted. But it's not my forum and I don't run anything here.


Exactly.


And other than your continued attacks on me -- notice how you attacked me first? -- I don't see anything on VEKN.net that needs to be deleted.


I did that on purpose to get the point accross. Also: continued?
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Re: Order of ending effects?

#25829 14 Mar 2012 15:14
jhattara wrote:

The forum software allows for banning certain words. This does not mean that such banning is used. As for rules, "polite" explicitly implies avoiding the use of profanities.


This raises an interesting question: do you know what the word "explicit" means? I don't think that it applies to this situation, and the phrase "explicitly implies" is an oxymoron.

Outside of public institutions (i.e. government), certain homes, and many workplaces (depending on their stated policies), some profanity is seen as acceptable. When it comes to insults, I agree with Kevin that that's where a line is crossed.
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Re: Censorship?

#25838 14 Mar 2012 17:42
Izaak wrote:
Yeeee! Censorship!


Most people who complain about censorship don't know what REAL censorship is.
I was born in a country where making the slightest offending statement about an official or a military police officer leads you to jail with a good bruising. I can't help but smile when i see this thread, sorry. You are making a big case out of nothing... does removing swearing makes a forum better ? Maybe. In all case, it's not real censorship...
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Re: Censorship?

#25840 14 Mar 2012 18:48
I find it hard to believe that someone wants to hold up Usenet as an example of how discussion should take place.

As for moderated forums, they are all different. For one game, it's common for someone to post to a thread over a year old. On another, someone doing that (or posting to a thread with no post for a month or two) will have the post deleted, the thread will get locked, and the moderator will issue a public admonishment to create a new topic rather than cause "thread necromancy".

I see the ideal being some level of moderation between extremes.
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Re: Censorship?

#25846 14 Mar 2012 19:16
Reyda wrote:
Izaak wrote:
Yeeee! Censorship!


Most people who complain about censorship don't know what REAL censorship is.
I was born in a country where making the slightest offending statement about an official or a military police officer leads you to jail with a good bruising. I can't help but smile when i see this thread, sorry. You are making a big case out of nothing... does removing swearing makes a forum better ? Maybe. In all case, it's not real censorship...


Actually I wasn't the on making a new thread out of it. That was done by a moderator and as I am unable to delete my own threads it's here for everyone.

I just commented on it because I think it's pathetic that a moderator picks sides in an argument between two players before it even starts and explicitly makes this clear for everyone to read. I then responded to the posts claiming it was mere moderation, which it was not. If it was moderation, it would have been deleted without further notice. Which it was not.


I find it hard to believe that someone wants to hold up Usenet as an example of how discussion should take place.


Why is this weird? It worked for 17 years. In fact, one of the first threads ever posted on this forum, started by Peter Bakija, was people agreeing we didn't need moderation other than deleting spambot threads.
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